Memory upgrade slows Microsoft Vista right down

15/10/2006 - 18:15 por Malke | Informe spam
Second INQpressions WTF? Windows Total freak-out

By Fuad Abazovic:

VISTA has rather an illogical performance rating tool. It tests some of
your computer subsystems and gives you a total score that can give you an
indication whether or not your machine is fit for Vista. It gives you a
"score" called Windows Experience Index (WEI). If we were on the planet
Vulcan someone would be shot for this performance rating system as
Microsoft will super confuse people with it.

In our first test equipped with Athlon 4000+ a single core CPU clocked at
2.4 GHz and 1 MB cache memory, two times 512 MB OCZ PC 4800 Elite platinum
edition, 250 GB Western digital 8 MB cache drive and Gainward 7800 GTX
card, Asus A8N SLI motherboard and Creative Labs X-Fi Fatal1ty sound card
we scored 4.2 score.

Anything higher than four is good as it means you can run Aero Glass really
well.

The Windows Experience Index tool won't actually give you an average
number, it will pick the lowest number from the five tests it runs and set
it as your final score. In my case even I had 1 GB of OCZ PC 4800 Elite
platinum edition superior memory I only scored 4.2 in memory test and that
was my final score. The graphic scored an excellent score of 5.9, 3D
graphic score was 5.8, hard drive scored 5.3 and the CPU scored 4.2.

Vista with 4x512 MB memory
Well I decided to play a little and to plug some more memory as I logically
assumed I need more memory. I really wanted a higher score.

The first step was to plug two more 512 MB modules. I picked Kingston
KHX4300K2 1GB memory, an additional two modules. I wanted to enlarge my ram
portion to a final 2 GB. I believed that this will make Vista happy. Oh boy
I was wrong.

I know that I had to screw the memory timings to make 4x512 MB memory work
together and I did so. Imagine my surprise when I re-used Windows
Experience Index and scored 4.1 only. The memory performance dropped to 4.1
as the settings were little slower. Trust me forget about the memory
timings 2 GB are going to perform better than 1GB of memory at least in
normal windows tasks. If you run out of physical memory and with vista it
is very easy to spend the whole 1GB of memory on just an OS and a single
application or game, you system will start to swap and it will slow down.
If you have 2 GB or more things will likely be faster.
Well Vista Windows Experience Index disagrees with me. It gets even better.
I tried to use the whole 4 GB of memory jet again OCZ 4x 1 GB of DDR 466
memory at 2.5, 3, 3, 5 settings and expected to get a superb score.

We upgraded a machine little bit, plugged dual core 4800+ CPU with 2x1 MB
cache clocked at 2.4 GHz and scored a satisfactory score or 4.9. Even I
plugged graphically faster card Radeon X1950 XTX, which is clearly faster
than 7800 GTX 256 MB card in every single game vista rated the card again
as 5.9 in graphic, 5.8 in 3D graphic score. We didn't see that coming.

Vista with 4x1024 MB memory and bunch of new hardware
I upgraded hard drive from Western Digital Caviar SE 250GB SATA with 8 MB
cache to Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 500GB 16MB SATA II and obviously expected
some performance increase. Well I was wrong again as the index number
stayed the same, 5.3.

In Short
We upgraded system with around ?450 worth memory, a brand new graphic card
Radeon X1950 XTX that costs roughly ?399, a Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 500GB
16MB SATA II drive that costs just over ?200 and a CPU that costs around
?270. What did we gain from Microsoft performance tool just a lousy non
realistic few points. Trust me Vista works much better with these new
components and ?1300+ new hardware will really make a stand out difference.
Unfortunately not according to this Microsoft performance tool.

I urge you to stay away from this tool as it will just confuse you. It is
as controversial as 3Dmark06 that will score better on Shader model 3.0
card than on much faster Shader model 2.0 and you will have to spend hours
to explain to a less experience user why is so.

The memory and dual core upgrade sure counts a lot and even the SATA II
drive with 16 MB makes a difference. In graphic of course it is faster but
you wont be astonished with the difference, some twenty percent if you
lucky and that's about it, but still more.

And finally Vista can address 4096 or 4095 / 4094 MB of system memory.
Congratulations to the Vole, we will send you the flowers. The memory
number defers from the tool you are using but we don't mind if we lose one
or two MB but we mind about the gigabytes that's for sure. Take a look what
Windows XP thinks about 4GB of memory. µ

L'INQ
4GB OCZ PC3700 EB Platinum memory configured at 3-3-2-8
Windows Vista RC1 gives great gaming experience

http://www.theinquirer.net/default....rticle5078

http://antitella.blogspot.com/ Jose Manuel Tella Llop
http://antitella.blogspot.com/ Jose Manuel Tella Llop
http://antitella.blogspot.com/ Jose Manuel Tella Llop

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#1 MowGreen [MVP]
15/10/2006 - 19:56 | Informe spam
Malke wrote: NO, this *isn't* Malke



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#2 Malke
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MowGreen [MVP] wrote:

Malke wrote: NO, this *isn't* Malke



This imposter posts from: NNTP Posting Host - mail.caventdom.ru
81.211.0.242
And uses Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869

Malke uses Knode and does NOT post from Russia.
What a pathetic attempt at impersonating someone who is kind enough to
help other folks out with their computing issues.


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
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Thanks, Sweetie. As you can see, I did a mass "it's not me" posting.
I'll continue to keep a lookout. And no, I haven't gone over to The
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#3 Alias~-
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MowGreen [MVP] wrote:
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This imposter posts from: NNTP Posting Host - mail.caventdom.ru
81.211.0.242
And uses Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869

Malke uses Knode and does NOT post from Russia.
What a pathetic attempt at impersonating someone who is kind enough to
help other folks out with their computing issues.


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
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Better not contradict anything she says though ...

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#4 Anando [MS-MVP]
15/10/2006 - 20:22 | Informe spam
Go away impersonator !

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news:
Second INQpressions WTF? Windows Total freak-out

By Fuad Abazovic:

VISTA has rather an illogical performance rating tool. It tests some of
your computer subsystems and gives you a total score that can give you an
indication whether or not your machine is fit for Vista. It gives you a
"score" called Windows Experience Index (WEI). If we were on the planet
Vulcan someone would be shot for this performance rating system as
Microsoft will super confuse people with it.

In our first test equipped with Athlon 4000+ a single core CPU clocked at
2.4 GHz and 1 MB cache memory, two times 512 MB OCZ PC 4800 Elite platinum
edition, 250 GB Western digital 8 MB cache drive and Gainward 7800 GTX
card, Asus A8N SLI motherboard and Creative Labs X-Fi Fatal1ty sound card
we scored 4.2 score.

Anything higher than four is good as it means you can run Aero Glass
really
well.

The Windows Experience Index tool won't actually give you an average
number, it will pick the lowest number from the five tests it runs and set
it as your final score. In my case even I had 1 GB of OCZ PC 4800 Elite
platinum edition superior memory I only scored 4.2 in memory test and that
was my final score. The graphic scored an excellent score of 5.9, 3D
graphic score was 5.8, hard drive scored 5.3 and the CPU scored 4.2.

Vista with 4x512 MB memory
Well I decided to play a little and to plug some more memory as I
logically
assumed I need more memory. I really wanted a higher score.

The first step was to plug two more 512 MB modules. I picked Kingston
KHX4300K2 1GB memory, an additional two modules. I wanted to enlarge my
ram
portion to a final 2 GB. I believed that this will make Vista happy. Oh
boy
I was wrong.

I know that I had to screw the memory timings to make 4x512 MB memory work
together and I did so. Imagine my surprise when I re-used Windows
Experience Index and scored 4.1 only. The memory performance dropped to
4.1
as the settings were little slower. Trust me forget about the memory
timings 2 GB are going to perform better than 1GB of memory at least in
normal windows tasks. If you run out of physical memory and with vista it
is very easy to spend the whole 1GB of memory on just an OS and a single
application or game, you system will start to swap and it will slow down.
If you have 2 GB or more things will likely be faster.
Well Vista Windows Experience Index disagrees with me. It gets even
better.
I tried to use the whole 4 GB of memory jet again OCZ 4x 1 GB of DDR 466
memory at 2.5, 3, 3, 5 settings and expected to get a superb score.

We upgraded a machine little bit, plugged dual core 4800+ CPU with 2x1 MB
cache clocked at 2.4 GHz and scored a satisfactory score or 4.9. Even I
plugged graphically faster card Radeon X1950 XTX, which is clearly faster
than 7800 GTX 256 MB card in every single game vista rated the card again
as 5.9 in graphic, 5.8 in 3D graphic score. We didn't see that coming.

Vista with 4x1024 MB memory and bunch of new hardware
I upgraded hard drive from Western Digital Caviar SE 250GB SATA with 8 MB
cache to Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 500GB 16MB SATA II and obviously
expected
some performance increase. Well I was wrong again as the index number
stayed the same, 5.3.

In Short
We upgraded system with around ?450 worth memory, a brand new graphic card
Radeon X1950 XTX that costs roughly ?399, a Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 500GB
16MB SATA II drive that costs just over ?200 and a CPU that costs around
?270. What did we gain from Microsoft performance tool just a lousy non
realistic few points. Trust me Vista works much better with these new
components and ?1300+ new hardware will really make a stand out
difference.
Unfortunately not according to this Microsoft performance tool.

I urge you to stay away from this tool as it will just confuse you. It is
as controversial as 3Dmark06 that will score better on Shader model 3.0
card than on much faster Shader model 2.0 and you will have to spend hours
to explain to a less experience user why is so.

The memory and dual core upgrade sure counts a lot and even the SATA II
drive with 16 MB makes a difference. In graphic of course it is faster but
you wont be astonished with the difference, some twenty percent if you
lucky and that's about it, but still more.

And finally Vista can address 4096 or 4095 / 4094 MB of system memory.
Congratulations to the Vole, we will send you the flowers. The memory
number defers from the tool you are using but we don't mind if we lose one
or two MB but we mind about the gigabytes that's for sure. Take a look
what
Windows XP thinks about 4GB of memory. µ

L'INQ
4GB OCZ PC3700 EB Platinum memory configured at 3-3-2-8
Windows Vista RC1 gives great gaming experience

http://www.theinquirer.net/default....rticle5078

http://antitella.blogspot.com/ Jose Manuel Tella Llop
http://antitella.blogspot.com/ Jose Manuel Tella Llop
http://antitella.blogspot.com/ Jose Manuel Tella Llop



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#5 MowGreen [MVP]
15/10/2006 - 22:02 | Informe spam
I always obey the " Empress of the Universe " :)

MG

Alias~- wrote:

MowGreen [MVP] wrote:

Malke wrote: NO, this *isn't* Malke




This imposter posts from: NNTP Posting Host - mail.caventdom.ru
81.211.0.242
And uses Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869

Malke uses Knode and does NOT post from Russia.
What a pathetic attempt at impersonating someone who is kind enough to
help other folks out with their computing issues.


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
==>> *-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
==>>






Better not contradict anything she says though ...

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